Dr. Anne Kawamura is a developmental pediatrician in
Holland Bloorview’s child development program, working with children with
cerebral palsy, autism and other developmental delays. She was hired 10 years
ago after completing her fellowship in developmental pediatrics here. In
addition to her clinical work, Anne directs the University of Toronto program for pediatricians who train for two years to become specialists in working
with children with disabilities. She has three children of her own.
BLOOM: What led you to working in children’s rehab?
Anne Kawamura: A lot of it stems from the fact that
when I was in medical school I had a chance to work with children with autism.
As part of a research project with Dr. Wendy Roberts I went into the community
three days a week as a volunteer to do intensive behavioural intervention with
two young boys. It was really hard and I didn’t know what I was doing, though I
had some basic training.
The greatest part was just having the connection with
both of these kids and to see that even though things were really challenging
for them and their families, that you can build a relationship with these
children. That was very meaningful for me. People often misunderstand that. You
can really get to know a child with autism and they can get to know you in
their own way.
I also felt firsthand some of the judgment that
families experience. One of the boys banged his head and once he was so upset
he gave himself a black eye. I took him to the park and people looked at me,
with a child with an injury, as if he’d been abused. I got a sense of how it
felt to be in the parent’s shoes.
BLOOM: What is the most challenging part of your
clinical work?
Anne Kawamura: I think the hardest days are when
families ask me really hard questions, like ‘will my child walk or talk?’ and I
know the answer is that the child may never walk or talk. They want something
and I can’t give it to them. It could be certainty or a guarantee, or even that
they want more therapy, and we don’t offer that level of therapy.
BLOOM: When a parent has a question about a child’s
abilities in the future, how do you address that in a helpful way?
Anne Kawamura: You have to balance being truthful about
what you know about the condition with hope, and leaving room for change. There
have been times when I’ve been really surprised to see what the outcome is.
When I was first working here I was on the brain injury team. I’ve seen some
really dramatic changes there that I wouldn’t ever have been able to predict.
So it’s important to leave the door open.
BLOOM: When I speak with medical students they often
ask how they can convey difficult news to a parent in a way that won’t be upsetting,
as if there’s a ‘right’ way of doing it.
Anne Kawamura: You can’t follow an algorithm. I see
that with our fellows who want to know the right way to approach this.
One of the most important things we need to teach is
that it’s a conversation that goes back and forth. You never know what will
come back from the parent, so you need a great deal of flexibility.
There’s no perfect way of giving a diagnosis, there is
not. And you can make mistakes, you can make a misstep, but the idea is that
you can recover from that. You can back up and redirect and reestablish a good
connection with the family.
BLOOM: What advice do you give fellows when giving
a diagnosis?
Anne Kawamura: I try to teach them to find the
strengths in every child, and to focus on those strengths. But they have to
truly believe the child has strengths, and to help the parents see those
strengths if they don’t already. When you interact directly with a child during
an assessment you get a sense of what they’re doing really well, and how those
things may help them in moving forward in an intervention or in their day to day
life. Focusing on strengths is important in providing a window of hope.
BLOOM: I think it must be difficult for fellows to
learn that what’s helpful to one parent in conveying a diagnosis may not be
helpful to another, because each parent is so unique.
Anne Kawamura: My gut feeling as a health professional
is that when someone is upset or suffering I want to fix it. And some of the
most useful feedback is that we don’t need to fix it, we may not be able to offer
parents something that changes how they’re feeling. We just need to be there.
To listen. To acknowledge how challenging it is. To be an ear. The most
important thing is that it’s okay to take the time to really hear where the
parents are at, to give them an outlet to express how they’re feeling.
Something exciting we’re doing is running a new simulation
program so fellows can practise giving a diagnosis with a standardized patient.
We have a family leader who has a child with autism who’s been part of building
these practice scenarios and giving feedback to fellows. It’s been amazing
having this parent’s perspective.
She can tell us how things felt for her as a parent,
and how we could have done something differently. I don’t have a child with
autism, she does, and having that perspective is really important. The other
important thing is practice and learning how to navigate situations.
Part of why I enjoy what I’m doing is that it’s always
a challenge and there’s always more to learn. I’m always thinking back to what
I could have done differently to make things easier or better. We’ve done two
sessions of simulation so far but we hope to be able to offer it to our fellows
regularly during their two years of training.
BLOOM: Have your views about disability changed since
you began 10 years ago?
Anne Kawamura: When I first started out I wanted kids
to get as much therapy as possible. We all have that notion that more therapy
is better. Over the years, through talking with colleagues and seeing a lot of
kids, I see that there are other equally important things in life, in terms of
going out with your kids and playing, having fun with your kids.
I try to talk to families more about seeing their whole
child, not just focusing on one thing, like walking, but to focus on the other
aspects of their child’s life where they’re doing well and where they also need
support. I try to help them focus on all aspects of their child’s development.
BLOOM: Have you seen any changes in children’s rehab?
Anne Kawamura: I think there’s more emphasis on participation,
even in the research realm of things. Before, we were focused on ‘what’s wrong,’
for example, treating the stiffness in the muscle. Now we’re still treating the
stiffness in the muscle, but we’re more interested in how treating it
influences what the child can do, how they participate in an activity and their
quality of life.
BLOOM: I assume your job is stressful because
supporting families takes time, but your time is limited?
Anne Kawamura: Peggy Curtis is the nurse I work with
and we work really closely together. We have a schedule and demands to get our
wait list down, but we try to make it work each day, one step at a time. We
never know when a child and family will need more time, and we want to be
flexible to meet the needs of the families coming that day. So if someone needs
more time, we figure out a way to make it work, even if it means bringing them back for another visit.
BLOOM: What are your hopes for the future?
Anne Kawamura: Right now in addition to my clinical
work I’m doing a lot of education overseeing our program for pediatricians who
are training to become developmental pediatricians.
I’m also doing a master’s in Health Professions Education, which I do long
distance through the University of Illinois at Chicago.
I love what I do and I don’t ever want to leave the
clinical side. I like working with families and the kids I get to see and
follow up over time. To see them growing, changing and maturing is the part I
enjoy. And I love teaching too.
BLOOM: If you could give yourself advice when you were starting out, what would you say?
Anne Kawamura: I think having a good mentor in the
field is important, in terms of balancing workload and the rest of your life.
There
are stressful cases where you feel you don’t know how to help or how to resolve
a situation and having someone to talk to is really important. Earlier on I had
mentors like Darcy Fehlings or Golda Milo-Manson. And now I could still knock
on their doors, but I have other people that cross disciplines, like Peggy and
the other colleagues I work with.
You need many mentors and they will be
different people at different times.
2 comments:
I think the hardest days are when families ask me really hard questions, like ‘will my child walk or talk?’ and I know the answer is that the child may never walk or talk.
The best answer we got was, "I don't know." We found out later - after my daughter was walking - that the neurologist giving that answer was pretty sure the answer was "No", but decided not to discourage us from trying.
I've found over the years that its the less experienced physicians (or even fellows or interns) who make negative predictive statements.
Its really better to say "I don't know" when it comes to brain injury because that's the truth. The more experienced Health Care Providers will leave the door open.
On the other hand, if you have to make a predictive statement, make a positive prediction.
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